Club Meeting topic

[spaldingracing]

I wont be able to make the meeting the 13th.

But i have a topic i think needs to be covered. While I was at BK2 i noticed one very very big saftey concern on a lot of karts out there.

I saw a lot of karts with sheet metal top panels, and even side panels on their wedges. Also some had metal lower edges. All of these are like having a knife on your kart in a crash. This is something pre-tech needs to be aware of. Metal should not be on the outside of the bodywork. There were even some with metal "rub rails" on the outside of the nose.

this is from the BNSS rule book:

4.5 Speedway Racing Bodywork Requirements

4.5.1 All bodywork components must be constructed of high strength plastic, fiberglass,
or advanced composites. No metallic materials to be used for side panels or nose
cones.

4.5.2 No component of the bodywork may be adjusted or controlled in any way while
the kart is in motion.
4.5.3 Skirting devices must be constructed of a flexible, non-metallic material.
4.5.4 The sides of the tires may not be covered in any way by the nose cone or side
panels. It must be possible to remove the wheel straight through the opening in
the bodywork.
4.5.5 Nose cones: The nose cone may cover the driver’s foot area, but not to extend
further than 3.0 inches rear of the pedals in relaxed position. This measurement
shall be made directly over each of the two pedals. The bottom of nose cone
may extend full width no farther than the rear of the front tires, in a straight-ahead
position, beyond that the bottom of the nose cone must be within the main frame
rails. The nose cone may be no narrower than to expose one half of a tire width
per side. Maximum nose cone height 14.0 inches for Jr I & Jr II classes only.
4.5.6 A connecting strip from nose cone or floor to steering fairing is allowed up to 6.0
inches maximum chord width, so as not to cover the driver’s feet, or legs.
Minimum six-inch clearance from connecting strip or steering fairing to any other
bodywork component begins three inches maximum aft of the pedals, extending
rearward to the mounting point for the steering wheel.
4.5.7 Steering fairings: Chord length 14.0 inches maximum. Chord width 14.0 inches
maximum. Clearance to steering wheel 3.0 inches minimum. Clearance to any
other bodywork or fuel tank 6.0 inches minimum. Clearance from steering wheel
to any other bodywork 6.0 inches minimum. No steering fairings in Jr. Sportsman
Classes.
4.5.8 Belly pans: Full width belly pans within the main frame rails are allowed for all
classes. Belly pans can be bent up to a point no higher than the centerline of the
rear axle.
4.5.9 Height from ground level of all side panels and rear pods: 16.0 inches maximum.
4.5.10 No bodywork component may extend past the rear tire.

[dixracing3]

yes i know the concern..........safety pre-tech is one area that needs more attention.......the guy with the wing on the front is a big no-no.............. safety pre tech is not something to take lightly.......

[mike97760]

Yikes thats us with the wing! When we built it we never dreamed there would be a concern (its plastic) but we'll surely take it off before we come back. There are quite a number of karts with bodywork extending past the rear wheels, including ours, is this going to be an issue too? Anybody got a spare nose they dont need?

[spaldingracing]

I remember the old days... you would get booted out of pre tech to fix something...they found everything. I actually miss it....they found stuff i never saw sometimes.

I really dont think the body behind the rear tires is a big deal....but rules are rules, and its what the club voted in. I actually like the IKF rules better. I wish we ran the full IKF rule package. It was expensive to join....but there are not many grey areas left in the rules. They are pretty straight forward once you have read the whole book about 5 times...lol.

In my opinion though, the better the club follows its rules to the letter, once people get their inital grumbles out, it will help local karting. Once the rules get bent, then thats where people have issues. I think consistant pre and post race tech are very very important. And i also agree with a one race fix it pass as long as its not an immediate saftey or performance concern. As long as we have tech enforced, then the expensive cheater toys stay in the barn. And if there isnt any tech, we should just follow Willamette speedways rules.... here is the entire rule book:

Kart Rules



Pee Wee Class: must be stock appearing with blue restrictor. No strokers. Must run on gas.

Junior 1 Class: must be stock appearing with blue restrictor. Must run stock carburator. No strokers

Junior 2 Class: must be stock appearing with red restrictor. Must run stock carburator. No strokers.

Intermediate: must be stock appearing. Must run stock carburator. No strokers.



Any questions on the rules, contact Bill @ [e-mail]

[dixracing3]

well when we were doing pre-tech one race grace for minor stuff but everything else was fix it or park it ........everyone was always on their stuff really good so there wasn't much of an issue .......some cotter keys and safety wire was about it....'cept for #9 he paid me a dollar for not teching his.......lol

and yeah i second the IKF rules for pre-tech.........don't have to join........just use their rules.......

[spaldingracing]

I also liked the class structure, weights and engine rules.

[spaldingracing]

I bet #9 would like to run Bill Arnolds rules.....lol

[dixracing3]

soooooo mr. ribs ...you running all of orv this summer?

[spaldingracing]

hope to....at least make most of them, if not all. I just have a few things to get together, or i would make the rest of the winter races. But things are pretty crazy right now.

[darrinf63]

In the Open class the CKA rules say www.unlimitedallstars.org/rules.html with the exception of 16 yrs of age to start and no oxygenating or nitro based additives in fuel. As Mr. Spalding pointed out, the 2009 UAS rules are not on line so I would think that the smart thing to do is start using the 2010 rules now. For the other classes I don't think it makes sense to kick someone out for bodywork that conforms to IKF but not BNSS as long as it doesn't cause a safety issue.

[spaldingracing]

I thought the UAS rules were only for motors and weights? Thats why I think we should consider one set of rules, for all classes... IKF, or Burris. Then no confusion. Personally i think it should be IKF for all classes, just because they are the most complete, ans also very very specific with no grey areas.

[mike97760]

did you see ther new Lebanon schedule? a LOT more races this year. BTW number 9 hasnt missed a Bill Arnold race in 2 years. And about that dollar? We didnt get a receipt!

[spaldingracing]

Wrong #9.... Were are talking about the owner of the swiss cheese kart

[dixracing3]

darrin, i didn't mean it that way, as far as a boot for bodywork......as you say safety is the main concern and sharp edges and metal IS a safety issue.......when we were teching we were ok with stuff that didn't exactly conform, just as long as it was not a hazard.....
except when we pre-teched the 03 nats.....we were pretty picky..






































a safety concern. we want all the competitors that show up to race of coarse.........

[wilywin9]

I think one thing everyone needs to remember....we are just now in the last year or so getting the kart count back to being good. The first thing that will run a bunch of people away is 8 million rules! I am all for safety but i think as far as oakwood is concerned we need to keep it simple so we can keep everyone coming back. IKF or BNSS or UAS or ACME or ABC123......just keep it simple so we keep the karters. There ain that many around here to begin with so we cant afford to tick someone off and have them not come back. The biggest thing i have seen at the last couple races is people out there racing with hooded cotton sweatshirts. It should be mandatory... an approved racing jacket or a carhardt leather type coat or dont go out on the track. I even saw one guy the last 2 races in a row with no gloves on! Same guy. To me thats the bigger issue. And I do agree no sheet metal side panels that is way to dangerous. Just my 2 cents. As for the $1 to bypass pre tech with Wendell..... That was years ago and I know nothing. I plead the 5th. What next you gonna accuse me of being on steroids all them years too??? LOL.

#9

[dixracing3]

lol....#9... i like your statement......keep it simple......what dollar?.....did i say that? ......help me mr. wizard........ don't know nothing........hehe. kart count is up lets keep it that way.........and ya what he said......

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[bettyboop]

Thanks for bringing up the pretech issues for the Feb 13th meeting. We will be discussing the metal on the kart bodies and proper racing gear (jackets, gloves, shoes, neckbraces, etc.) and who is responsible to check for it - (pretech persons & pit boss). We will also announce at the drivers meeting a reminder concerning safety issues with proper racing attire. I have a set of rules at registration and at the scales if anyone ever needs to look at them they are welcome to. We are trying to run a safe, organized, and fun show but we still have some problems we are working on - and appreciate your input.

[43shaver]

sound great see you at the meetting